Friday, July 28, 2006

some kind notes for jill from around the universe:

Subject: Jill Greenberg - No, I'm not writing for blood, oh contraire...

I just wanted to write a note of support for Jill Greenberg, you and your gallery. Of course I should tell you that I am a vocalist and artist, so my viewpoint might be affected by this, but only slightly, as this just seems to be about basic common sense.

I did view the portraits on her website, and although I might not have made the children cry (ah, would that I had the idea!), I agree that no babies were harmed, maybe just irritated a bit. Ok, that might seem a bit exploitative, but the art that came out of it is beautiful, and just creates a different sense of mortality, vulnerability and immortality.

It's such a shame that San Francisco isn't (exactly) around the corner.

Wishing you both success and much more art.


Laurie Amat

I heard an article on KCBS about Jill Greenberg and the outrage that followed her photographs of toddlers. Please tell her that I personally thought her message was POWER-FULL!! Based on the fact that each child had a parent with them AND the parent consented to they way the photographs were taken, she brought a message that people really need to take attention to.

I am bookmarking your web site as I look forward to viewing more from the artist that you support and if I'm ever in the Southern California area, we would love to visit your gallery.

Janet Mercer

I don't think anything was done wrong... if anything... if taking a lollipop from a child makes them burst into flames of tears... I think the parents need to take a look at the emotions of their child.

I do try and take natural photos... but I've never gone for a pose of a child in complete tears...

what about all the kids that cry on Santa's lap and parents buy those photos and laugh at how devastated they are?

Just a bit of support from another photographer!

Let Jill know...

Barb Farley
Photolady & Friends Photography

Jill Greenberg's photo's are excellent...I love the crying babies...My most treasured photo is of my, now 24 yr. old grandaughter...crying...sitting on Santa's knee...And I knew she was going to cry...But I did not feel like I had abused her....It is fantastic...and she loves the picture too....

Thanks for the good work....

Patricia S. Thompson

Dear Jill,

Joe Allegro from New York here. Congratulations on the End Times photographs. I love them. I am sure you have received much negative attention because of them, which in a way is a good thing. More attention for you and your work.

I certainly would have not heard of you were it not for the controversy surrounding End Times. I can understand the emotion the photographs evoke, no one wants to see children in pain, even if it is for a moment. BUT, I feel your work has much deeper meaning and has much more potential to inspire, rather than agitate. The inspiration for me lies in not only wanting to ease the pain of the children in End Times, but the pain of children worldwide. Children affected by and dying daily because of war, hunger, disease, poverty, oppression and hopelessness. Combine all of these things with the effects of Global Warming, which we are now beginning to see, and the world we are leaving our children does not look too pretty.

I only hope that all of the folks that are so upset over your work would get as equally upset about the condition of humanity, the planet and our future. If they do, it just might help make a difference. As for myself, I am very involved with a grass roots campaign to establish a cabinet level Department of Peace, which would research, articulate and facilitate non-violent solutions both domestically and internationally. There are chapters in every state. So as not to inundate you with details, our national website is take a look if you have time.

Once again, thank you so much for having the courage and vision to create End Times. Your work has touched many. It is my hope it will also spur them into action to create a better world and future. Sorry for the long email. Be well.

Joe Allegro


I'm Karen, a young freelance theaterdirector from Belgium.
This morning when I opened the newspaper, I saw the pictures of Jill
Greenberg, End Times.
And the idea about the lolly and the incomparison with the politic situation
in the US.
I don't understand the people who give bad comment on her pictures.
They are very conservative.
I looked up your website and the website from Jill.
I didn't know her work.
Now I am. And that's nice!

Greetings and a lot of succes,
Karen Claes

I would like to congratulate Jill Greenberg and the gallery on the
exposition End Times.

I read (in 'De Morgen', a Belgian Newspaper) there was a lot of protest
about it from concerned people about the suffering of those children
when the pictures when taken.
This is good news. I assume those people who thing, taking away candy's
for just a secund, is child assault, are sympathetic towards children.

I'm sure those people would do everything to help all the real suffering
children in the world, homeless children, poor children, children that
have to work on, the children who can't get healthy water, who can't get
food to grow up well, children who lost their parents or homes because
of war, aids, etc .....

I'm sure the criticasters would spend a big amount of their monthly
wages on organizations that try tho help them, and would vote for the
right politic party, the one that doesn't create hate, war or a polluted
future and who wants to create a fair economy in the whole world for them.

Kind regards,
Ive Van Krunkelsven,


I'm a professor at USC and run a regular series of art and science events. I was very moved by photographs I saw in the LA Times, and would like to contact Jill Greenberg directly. We're doing a program on End Times in September, and I wondered if she'd like to say something about her photographs. The program includes an astrophysicist from Caltech, a religious scholar, and novelist Caroyn See.

If you could pass this one or get me an e mail, that would be great.

Many thanks,
KC Cole


Read the LA Times article on End Times, and I think it missed the
point. The real atrocity is the one Greenberg was trying to illuminate
- clarified for me even further by the idiocy of how this thing has
been received.

Good work and keep it up.

best regards,

Elizabeth Wendell

I can understand why Jill Greenberg might not want to advertise her email
address on her website, given the adverse reaction from some quarters to
"End Times," but please pass to her, from this photographer and father,
that I think her series is priceless and perfectly done. I have no problem
with the temporary distress inflected, given the timeless results. Hurrah!
for her!

Stephen Haynes

Just a note a support (please also forward to Jill Greenberg.)
I just saw an article about the children's portraits.
I was blown away by the pictures and when I found out she was the same artist that did the monkeys I was even more impressed. I thought the monkey portraits were one of the best photo books I have ever seen and I have seen a lot.
I am amazed that people are up in arms about taking a lollipop from a child for a minute and we are living in a country whose president tries to make torture legal.
Can you please put me on the mailing list for the gallery.
Gary Steinborn

I just saw a news report on Los Angeles channel 7 news about the outrage against Jill Greenbergs End Times photo gallery. It was said that she is a child abuser by some and it is unfortunate by others.

I immediately looked her up on the Internet, which led me to your gallery and found her work with End Times to not only be real, but wonderful and acceptable.I am the parent of a 16 year old boy and a 4 month old girl and occasionally they cry and that crying is a part of life and emotion. Without crying in any capacity and age of our lives, we have reduced emotion. Withour recording this emotion in others, we would have lost our understanding and sensitivity to crying in our babies and children. Please assure Jill receives a job well done from me and much success in her future photo projects.


Rick Mitchell

i think the belgian "they must all be conservative jerks" is my favorite. thank you, karen! and ive, don't worry, not only do they not really care about the issue of child abuse, the guy who started this whole thing makes money by having a picture of a crying child on his own website!


  1. Monica Lozano8:10 PM

    I am posting here on this site, because there wasn't anywhere to post on

    I would like to say that I had never heard of Jill Greenberg until late this afternoon while watching a Ti-vo'd episode of my favorite soap. There was a quick blurb about this "controversy" and I immediately Googled her name and was introduced to her beautiful website. Ms. Greenberg is truly an amazing artist and I have bookmarked her site for future enjoyment.

    The way I feel about this "controversy" is that these enraged critics need to get a life and buy a clue. The public outcries that Ms. Greenberg is "sick" and an "abuser" are nothing more than the outburts of ignorant people uncomfortable with the emotions of their own inner children. Any quasi-intelligent person could see immediately that with the presence of the parents during the shoot and the duration of the, *ahem* "torture" being minimal at best, the message of Ms. Greenberg's art was achieved with only minor discomfort to the children.

    I myself am a mother of an 18 year old and 16 year old, but those toddler days are not that long ago to have forgotten how tears are here one moment and gone the next. I remember my children contorting their bodies in seemily unbearable pain, not unlike a few of the images captured by Ms. Greenberg, all over an icecream cone falling to the ground, or the television being turned off at the end of a Barney episode. Two minutes later, with a new cone in hand or a book being read to them, and you'd never know these were the same children writhing in agony only moments before.

    Some people just need to get a grip...

    To the critics and all those who are outraged, I would like to tell a brief story, and ask a question.

    A couple of years ago, I was getting my car serviced at one of those half hour lube job places and was browsing through some magazines tossed on the seat next to me. One magazine, whose name I forget now, was dedicated to sportswear or swimwear for the family. On a large spread, was a young girl between the ages of 5 and 7,with long flowing hair and light but noticeable makeup, lying on her side in a semi-provocative pose, wearing a bikini cut similarly to those worn by adult models. To all those critics out there I ask, where was your outrage then? This spread should have provoked outrage and anger, not the work of an artist trying to convey an important message.

    Bravo, to Ms. Greenberg on her beautiful and thought provoking work! You have many more supporters than critics behind you, and I personally look forward to seeing what comes next.

    And to the ignorant critics,feel free to swallow the blue pills now and return to your world of illusion. The intelligent people will be content with nothing less than the red ones.

  2. Herr Doktor Bimler3:08 PM

    Ah, the wonders of globalisation... The LA Times article by Anthony-Barrie has even made its way New Zealand. Apparently it is expensive to produce human-interest news stories in NZ, so our papers prefer to import the cheaper stories churned out by sweatshop labour in Australia or the US. Here I am using the word 'news' in the technical sense, of "trivial stuff about people we have never heard of, in another country, designed to occupy space between the advertisements and leave the readers with the impression that they have learned something in exchange for the time they spent reading it."

    Anyway, the article's description of the controversy was fair and reasonable, as you wrote in one of your posts. The focus was not so much on the aesthetic pros and cons of your wife's photographs, as on the insight gained into the nature of the blogosphere... the unrelenting triviality of the medium, and the feeling among bloggers that they were entitled (and even obliged) to have an opinion on Ms. Greenberg's work, whether or not they knew any more about it than what they read in someone else's blog.

    Of course the same insight also applies to printed-paper media, and in particular to the target audience of the LA-Times article, but let's not go there.

  3. The good Doktor's comments are right, of course, so take heart.

    I've worked in various areas of justice admin and policy and every overwrought headline in the Murdoch press ruins my day. All it takes is for Rupert's papers to blow the dog whistle and it means I'll have to spend the rest of the week shouting "Down, boy!" at a pack of yelping, outraged citizens.

    The subject matter itself isn't relevant - the internet just allows the perpetually apopleptic to voice their generalised explosions of rage anonymously.

    So don't take their yapping to heart - they're not angry about the exhibition. They started out angry, and this was just the first thing they found to be outraged over.